Wednesday, March 19, 2014

Mocks, Get Ya Mocks Right Here!

Its going to be that time of year soon.  All mocks are not created equal, but they are all hard work.  Its hard to follow every team's needs/tendencies/what not so I try to keep that in mind.

However... A lot of guys really miss on what makes the Giants tick.  The easiest way to mock them is to of course throw a pitcher's name into the blender...

Minor League Ball V1 - has the Giants taking Sean Reid-Foley over Max Pentecost and Brandon Finnegan.  I like that Sean Reid-Foley guy, he's getting some helium.

MLB Draft Countdown - has the Giants taking Brandon Finnegan over Nick Gordon, Aaron Nola, Reid-Foley and... TOUKI!  TOUKI!  Are you kidding me?  I would love to have the Padres take Derek Hill ahead of us in real life, but I'm not really so sure that one is going down.

I like these TTF guys enough to excuse them being lovable loser Cubs homers.  Here's their latest mock, they update quite a bit, so check back if you're jonsing for action.  Bradley Zimmer to the Gigantes, over Grant Holmes, Matt Chapman and... TOUKI!  TOUKI!  I'll say this - Grant Holmes looks like a very, very sweet pick to me.  And Touki might be raw, kicking around here and there but he's electric, has the best curve in the class and just has the "it" factor.  More on him later.

Some joint called sportscity has a mock.  The Giants are taking Tyler Beede.  I think I would be sort of meh about that one, and I usually love Vandy guys.  Brandon Finnegan and a rising Nick Gordon passed up?  Hmmm... Nick Gordon might be a pretty sweet pick, he apparently has gained muscle and is likely a top 5 guy now.  And... a couple spots more down... TOUKI!  TOUKI!

At my new buddy MLB Draft Insider, who doesn't have anything against the Giants even though he slams them for doing exactly the same thing the Rays have been doing while raving about the Rays... has the Giants taking Michael Conforto, a 1B/OF, over Sean Newcomb, Luke Weaver and Luis Ortiz.  OK, I'll just say it - that is a guy who doesn't get it.  He needs to study more Keith Law, get better at his snark at least.  Needless to say, he has Touki at 22, to the Bums.  That would be a bummer.

Some joint BeforeitsNews has a mock, Bradley Zimmer to the Giants.  I guess everybody wants them to go get an OF finally.  Chili Davis is busy coaching up the Cuban by the way, the Cuban isn't hitting balls right now.  I hate to say it, but the Cubans are all juiced to the bejahsus.  I think this third year will be an interesting year to watch Cespedes, and Puig, and everybody in between.  Zimmer over Grant Holmes, Matt Chapman and... wait for it... TOUKI!  TOUKI!  Grant Holmes is looking good, but I can't stop with Touki.  This dude could be the steal.  of.  the.  draft.

A site I used to check a lot before I became a draft nerd mymlbdraft has the Giants taking Luis Ortiz over Brad Zimmer.  Alright mymlbdraft!  Now you are talking!  Grant Holmes still on the board.  They get it, they have Touki at #7.  Nick Gordon still on the board and Pentecost, and hyped guys like Finnegan and Reid-Foley back in the 20s. 

This one is old, but these guys are good.  Nine Baseball from December had Sean Reid-Foley there, with Forbes going to the Pads (hey, more believeable than the Sacto Prep OF) and Cederoth, Chavis and Finnegan following.  They have Touki at 20.  Pentecost at 21. 

And... These guys are such nerd alerts, they have a DISCUSSION on Matt Garrioch's minorleagueball mock.  I have found some crazy good analysis on the draft from the Astros sbnation site, they have some very obsessive guys over there.  Now, they are doing the #1 overall for the third straight time, and you don't want to mention any shortcomings of Mark Appel to them, but still, interesting work. 

So... What to think.  I go over each position, to get an idea of scarcity, and where the strengths are.  I do more work than what I write down, but its pretty haphazard.  I keep going back to pitching at the #14, because that's the strength of the draft.  But there are some hitters that stand out - Chavis on the prep side, Pentecost on the college side.  Two prep SS's in Nick Gordon and Ti'quan Forbes.  I tend to think if Jacob Gatewood is there at 14 you need to pass because there's something off on his contact.  I really think the Giants should concentrate on up the middle players who are as close to 5-tool as possible.  (Both Chavis and Pentecost run well, and Chavis might be able to fake short but could play 2B as a real deal Jeff Kent type comp). 

From these mocks it looks like TOUKI is down, but I don't believe that for a second.  If he's there at 14 I think he's a slam dunk go grab with your heart pounding pick.  But there are other really hard throwing good pitchers there as well.  Alls I know, there will be many more mocks to pour over between now and June.

14 comments:

  1. Shank, where did you find the writer's laxative? Bejesus, man. And, I only write comments and I can't keep up with you.

    Okay, I'll bite...for my draft dollar its got to be pitching first. The Giants, I pray, won't be picking this low again for awhile. Got to get the best arm available at #14. Can fill in position guys, hopeful hitters, up-the-middle types later. Got to strike for pitching gold when you can. Plus I don't think there will be a surefire hitter available at #14. A pretty surefire, Tidrow-approved, pitcher will be there.

    So, TOUK!, TOUK! whatever the hell that means.

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    1. Just add an I to the end there Sharky!

      https://www.perfectgame.org/players/playerprofile.aspx?ID=280684

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJvSjMdjvBU

      http://www.bbprospectreport.com/2014/01/27/touki-toussaint-video

      TOUKI!

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    2. Yeah, I agree Monterey, the Giants probably go pitching, the Giants during the Sabean era has rarely gone two straight drafts with position player with their first round pick (just Brown/Panik), and out of five picks within the first 14 picks overall, the Giants have selected 4 pitchers and 1 hitter (but what a hitter, Posey). And, of course, the vast majority of first round picks have been pitchers.

      However, four of the six first round draft picks under Barr have been position players, and three of the last four, and that is what he was brought into the organization to help with, finding position players for us. And nice job so far, Posey, Belt, Crawford, and probably Panik and Brown at some point, though probably not as much impact as even Crawford. Still, every dollar saved anywhere is another dollar we can pay our stars and keep them around longer.

      Yeah, it took me a long while to understand what Touki! is, so you weren't alone.

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  2. Watch some video of Touki. He is the spitting image of none other than Bob Gibson, not just in physical appearance but in his delivery and follow-through. Yeah, if he's still there at #14, he's the guy as far as I'm concerned. I also like Michael Kopech a lot too.

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    1. DING DING. Exactly who I thought of as well.

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    2. I can see the reference to Gibson, via that youtube video as he wears red too, but I had to refresh my memory of Bob and this video captures what I remember: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YldXACT668g

      If you see here, he has a full effort pitching motion, ending with him ending wildly to the right (exposing him to hits up the middle, per DrB's post on protection for pitching), whereas I see a much more controlled motion for Touki on the YouTube video.

      Oh, what the hell?!? I just saw the video for the BB Prospect Report, and yes, that's totally Bob Gibson. Which one is the real Touki?!?

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    3. Yeah I read the BBPR piece when it came out, watched the video, and immediately emailed him "BOB GIBSON"

      Pretty short reply for a guy who can get long winded eh?

      TOUKI!

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  3. The high upside dreamer in me wants Touki. The upside/risk guy in me wants Holmes. Matt Garrioch likened him to Bundy in the sense that he is as/more advanced than many of the college juniors coming out. I would not be disappointed if either was picked, and really think its up to what the Giants want. Pure upside, or a guy like Bum who could possibly be in the bigs before he can legally drink.

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    1. I really like Holmes as well. The one thing on the videos, I don't see many strikes being thrown. I think I'd just trust the Giants on that pick, sort of a cop out, but Holmes has a very good fastball. That's the lesson from Michael Wacha. Don't sweat the secondary stuff THAT much.

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  4. FYI, latest ESPN mag has interesting article on Kershaw that made me appreciate him as a human being.

    Also, they hired profs to, somehow, analyze chemistry of teams and the Giants led in that, gaining two wins from that, best in the majors. That with their projection yield an 88 win season, good for a wild card spot, with the dodgers winning the division with 91 wins, where chemistry costs them two wins, but still good enough for division title. That's 25th in majors for chemistry for LAD. All ESPN projections.

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    1. Oh yeah, Kershaw is a great guy. I like having some good guys on the Dodgers, it doesn't always happen that way.

      We'll see how the pitching turns out. Dan Haren for real, or Tim Hudson for real? Also I want to see how the league adjusts to Ryu. He was hittable, but he's a cool customer under pressure.

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  5. If Toussaint is available at 14, lock him up. Dude looks very intimidating out there. Another guy getting some big love this spring is Brady Aiken... prep lefty hitting 97. You know, I'm not sold on Rodon and Hoffman going 1-2. At this point, I don't think Trea Turner would go top 5. I'm predicting a major shakeup by June. Either way, there's going to be some big time TALENT waiting when the Giants step into the box.

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    1. Brady Aiken has that perfect form. Then he ups the velocity. Yeah, that'll get some big time attention. I agree, something has to give, this is a very, very nice draft.

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